As Sri Bhagavan was continuing in the same strain, a visitor asked how to overcome the identity of the Self with the body.
Maharshi: What about sleep?
Devotee: There is ignorance prevailing.
Maharshi: How do you know your ignorance in sleep? Did you exist in sleep, or not?
Devotee: I do not know.
Maharshi: Do you deny your existence in sleep?
Devotee: I must admit it by my reasoning.
Maharshi: How do you infer your existence?
Devotee: By reasoning and experience.
Maharshi: Is reasoning necessary for experience? (Laughter)
Devotee: Is meditation analytical or synthetic?
Maharshi: Analysis or synthesis are in the region of intellect. The Self transcends the intellect.