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When one experiences truth, the madness of finding fault with others disappears.

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Meeting Between Shri S N Goenka and K
(S. N. Goenka met K at KFI Rajghat in early 1970's.)

Question for Shri S. N. Goenka about his meeting with J Krishnamurti (K)
Location: Pune, India.
Date: 17 October 2000.
Occasion: public Q/A session after a public talk by Shri S N Goenka on Vipassana meditation.

Q. Krishnamurty did not believe in a technique or gurus. I believe you met him, did you discuss this?

Answer by S. N. Goenka:

Certainly, I met him. He was a very saintly person, and I very much understood why he is against technique and why he is against gurus. Because he observed the situation all over the country where gurus just exploit the people saying "Look I am your guru and you are my disciple, you are so weak, how can you liberate yourself ? Just surrender to me and I will liberate you. I will liberate you."

This is exploitation by gurus, this is against Dhamma and when you talk of technique that means you have got one object and you are just working with one object. It does not take you to the final goal.

Things are changing from moment to moment you are observing, you are observing. (This is Vipassana, this is not a technique, Vipassana is not a technique, it is a process of observation.)

So I discussed with him "Well in age you are an elderly person and in experience also you are an elderly person." It was 30 years ago when we met. "You are elderly so let me know if I am making any mistake. I am teaching Vipassana because I got benefit from it and I want to share my benefit with others. That is the only reason. If I am making any mistake please tell me''. then he (K) asked me "First day what you teach?''. (I replied and he said)

''Oh! This is not a technique''...second day... (K said) ''This is not a technique''.
....all the ten days I explained (and K said) "This is not a technique, you are observing the truth. The truth from moment to moment. Perfectly all right !''.

And guru? (I said) "I never say that I will liberate you, you have to work out your own liberation. A guru can only show the path then only sadguru. Otherwise if he tries to exploit then he is not a guru, he is harmful to the country." He said, "no this is not gurudom." He accepted both.

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Death is auspicious for Vipassi, not inauspicious. Its pleasant not unpleasant, Its congrtulatory and not humiliation. When time ripens and age ritual is complere, then disintegration of body is must (to happen). No one can postpone this unbreakable law of nature (destiny). Mature practitionar accepts (wears) this inevitable death moment with a smile. In his stream of thoughts (consciousness) there is not an iota of fear or sorrow or uneasiness. At the time of death even if there is pain, even then his consciousness is not perturbed. As one sitting in Adhishtan (sitting with determination practise) is not affected by physical pain, similarly he is not disturbed at time of death if there is physical pain. He keeps awake mind always aware of fact of impermanence. In such a state when the body disintegrates, then the synthesis with first moment of next life (transformation) is doubtlessly leading to a place of salvation (Sadgati or one who ends in truth/ peace).
The Vipassi practitionar who practises Vipassana from the time of initiation till whole life, he is traveller on path of Dharma. ' Oppnayike' stands for a person who moves forward step by step. Death cannot halt his progress. Death is unable to interrupt the dharma stream in his consciousness (river). The progress remains (Stays). For a committed practitonar the 'oppnayike' nature presents itself as a help at moment of death. Sublime (promoted) future is ensured, Salvation (Sadgati or one who ends in truth / peace) is ensured.
Thats why true practitionar is not afraid of death. He neither desires death out of hatred (loathing) of life nor he is scared of death because of attachment (obsessed with love) to life. He is completely assured (faith) that death is a promotion, elevation. Hence death is a cause of celebration and not lamentation or grief. Vipassi practitionar learns the art of living. The auspicious art of dying is hidden in the art of livng. Even then deathbound Vipassi should be helped by other Vipassi practitionars who are nearby (the dying). The whole environment should be kept overflowing (submerged) with equanimous consciousness of Dharma. Thats why if there is a person with unstable mind (Chitta/ heart/ consciousness) or weak heart who is shedding tears, he should be immediately moved away as he should not become the reason for contamination of important moment ( disintegrating & forming consciousness ----dying rebirthing moment). If the deathbound person is not completely ripe (matured in dharma), then he may spoil his afterlife (parlok -beyond this planet) on seeing lamenting member of his family. All the practitionars present are required to do Vipassana sitting around the deathbound. They should generate Dhamma vibrations of impermanence or do mangal maitri for patient (Mangal maitri - auspicious friendliness meditation) That time the whole environement should be cleaned (whitened) with electric energy waves of Dhamma consciousness.
After death no one should cry, no one should lament. On the contrary, that the dead has reached Sadgati (salvation), keep the psyche happy. Always keep on generating mangal maitri for the departed. Keep on distributing your merits to the departed. What is does is that wherever the departed has taken birth, in his psyche there is a result of touch of Dharma consciousness and resultant his psyche would be peaceful, happy and ecstatic. If we are sad and lament for the departed all we do is send sorrow vibes from our psyche to them making them unhappy and sad. Hence they become restless and ends his peace and happiness. Donot be sad and donot be reason for anyone else's sadness. Always be happy and always be reason for happiness of others. This is the auspicious law for auspicious death.
Mangal Mitra Satyanarayan Goenka With gratitude- Vipassana journal Year 9, Issue 12

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I do not wish to convert people from one organized religion to another; I have no interest in any of these organized religions. My interest is in Dhamma the truth, the teachings of all Enlightened Ones. If at all there is any conversion, it should be from misery to happiness, from defilement to purity, from bondage to liberation, from ignorance to enlightenment.

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The bird of wisdom needs two wings to fly. They are awareness and equanimity

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The Buddha never taught a sectarian religion; he taught Dhamma - the way to liberation - which is universal

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