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NISARGADATTA’S VERSION OF RAMAYANA
There were many occasions when Maharaj demonstrated to me his unique, natural, inborn genius. I want to mention one of them. After an inspiring talk by Maharaj, a middle aged affluent looking American went up to Maharaj and offered $ 1000/- in cash as his offering. Maharaj smiled but politely refused to accept it. The American pleaded, “Maharaj! Please accept it! For the wisdom I received from you today I can’t but pay my homage. I am a wealthy man and to me these are but peanuts. Kindly do not decline.”
Maharaj answered, “I know, I know! You Americans are very rich and very prosperous. I will tell you an ancient story. It is from the epic, Ramayana. Lord Rama’s wife Sita was abducted by the demon, Ravana. Rama sought the help of the monkey king, Sugriva. Their leader, Hanuman, guided the monkeys to recognize the greatness of Lord Rama. All of them pledged their support to Rama. In due course, Lord Rama vanquished Ravana and was triumphantly returning to his capital Ayodhya in India along with his rescued wife Sita. The monkeys also wanted to accompany them to Ayodhya as they were eager to witness the coronation ceremony of Lord Rama.
When they reached Ayodhya, the monkeys as was their wont, made an enormous commotion. The coronation was successfully conducted. The next day, early in the morning, Lord Rama asked Hanuman, “Why is there such silence and stillness? What happened to all your clan?” Hanuman replied, “My Lord! When they pledged support to you, they also took a severe vow that they would not eat or sleep till you are crowned as King of Ayodhya. Yesterday, they witnessed the coronation. Their vow completed, they ate to their hearts’ content. They felt so exhausted from lack of sleep that they are now fast asleep.” Lord Rama was very moved by the sacrifice the monkeys had made of giving up of their pleasures of food and sleep.
Maharaj suddenly stopped his narration and said, “Till now the original story. Now, I am going to add my own version.”
“So, Lord Rama gave a boon to all the monkeys: “All the monkeys deserve great pleasure and prosperity. So, may they all be reborn as ‘humans’ in America, where they will enjoy all this in plenty!”
Maharaj turned to the American and the audience and added, “I know, you Americans revel in plenty and prosperity and are generous. You enjoy pleasures. Yet, I can’t accept your money. I am a grihastha [house-holder]. In our Hindu dharma, only brahmacharis [bachelors] and sannyasis [renunciates] are permitted to accept alms and donations. Grihasthas [active, house-holders] and vanaprasthas [retired, house-holders] are not permitted.”
Noticing the disappointment in the face of the American, Maharaj consolingly said, “You Americans will have material prosperity in great abundance in America, but if you want Lord Rama you will have to come to Bharat. You will have to come to India!”

- V. Ganesan, Meetings with Sages and Saints

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Originally, I am untainted—uncovered by anything, without stigma, since nobody existed prior to me. Nor do I entertain any concepts about somebody existing before me. Everything is in the form of the manifest world, after the appearance of the knowledge “I am” with the body. Together with the body and the indwelling “I-am-Ness,” everything is. Prior to the appearance of this body and the knowledge “I am,” what was there?
The Paramatman was there, the highest self, the core of the self. This identity is without any stigma. Even the sky cannot touch it. The space cannot touch it. It is subtler than space. It is just like sunrays or moonbeams: they do not get dirty and dirty waters. If such as their purity, what would be the purity of the self, consciousness?
Understand this first moment, when we understood “we are”—the first moment of the body, when it understood “it is.” Recognize that very first moment. Once you grasp this, then you are the highest of the gods, the point at which everything arises. At that very point, everything also sets: the source in the end are the same point. Nobody tries to understand this happening of the self, the happening of this “I-Am-ness.” Once It Is Understood, I, the Absolute, am not this “I-am-ness.”
Every creature in the universe pray so that principle which he considers his God or whatever, but this can only happen from the time the Life force has awakened until the time the Life force is no longer working.
In the practice of meditation, this life force gets purified and then the light of the Atman shines forth. However, the working principle is still the Life force. When this purified life force and the light of self merge into each other, then the concept, imagination, or mind, everything, is held in abeyance.
When anyone tells you to do some sadhana, with what can you do sadhana of any kind? It can only be this life force. The only instrument one has to do sodden with is the life force. This life force, instead of viewing it merely as an instrument, has to be treated—mentally accepted as the highest principal in the world: that is, God, Paramateman, Ishwara, or whatever you want to call it. So that when this life force is pleased, it is gets purified and merges with the light of the Atman.
What is creation? What are has been created, is it the creation of God, or is it the creation of this life force? By practicing meditation, diligently and continuously, this life force gets purified to such an extent that it obtains divinity. Do understand that this life force is God, and God is the life force, and be one with it.
Now when this life force in the highest principal become one in your meditation, then whatever is reached by this merger, signifies the awakening, liberation, call it whatever you like. So, what is liberation? Subjection to the conditioning and obstructions connected with the individual, all that disappears. That is liberation. This life force is the acting principal; and that which gives sentience to the person is the consciousness. The principle is that within the body, consciousness and the prana or life force together are Atman.
It is said that somebody is dead. So what has happened? The life force has gone in the principle behind the life force—that is, this consciousness has also disappeared. That is all that has happened.
I have been explaining this principle, analyzing it, for all these years. But from now on, I have not the energy or inclination to explain all of this again, so I can only say what is to be done, if anything. And the only thing is that nothing is to be done as is generally understood by the word “do,” but merely to sit in contemplation and let the consciousness unfold itself, unfolded knowledge about itself.
You are to do meditation, and in that meditation, itself the consciousness will unfold whatever knowledge is to be revealed. But people generally do not go to the root of the matter and explain the principal, which is I have been doing all these years.
This consciousness in the life force, when they merge they tend to become steady in the Brahmananda. And then all thoughts cease, even a thought that you are sitting in meditation. And that is the start of samadhi. That state will remain for a while and will discontinue again, whatever the reason. And then normal behavior in the world will start again. That is, the life force will start its normal work or activities.
Now I am asking: this disease (throat cancer) that I am said to suffer from, to what has this illness come? It has come to this consciousness and the working principle—that is, the life force. These two are concerned with that illness. And I, being apart from it, I am not concerned with the illness. But it is one’s duty to keep that life force in reasonably good working order. That is why the medicine was taken in the same way that food is normally taken, so as to keep this consciousness in the Life force in proper working condition.
So, medicine is much like food. But as far as I am concerned, I do not really care whether this life principle in the consciousness works or not, because I am totally apart from it, beyond it and tired of it. The Life force and the consciousness are not really two; as a concept they are treated as such, but they really are one. As soon as a life form is created, the life force is infused in that form, and sentience is automatically present. There is a physical form and the life force, and in the absence of the consciousness that would only be a technically alive body. But merely that life force within the body—what is the use of it?
It has no meaning, no function unless consciousness is also present. So, it is this consciousness which gives life force, which otherwise would be merely air, the potency to create a sentient being.
People write to me, thanking me for my guidance and they say they now understand that although physically they and me are separate, we are actually one. All that, however, is still superficial knowledge which has been obtained by the consciousness upon its realization that is not the body. But it is only at that stage that the knowledge has remained—on the level of words. They have not really gone beyond.

From the Book 'Ultimate Medicine' Chapter 7

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All depends on you. It is by your consent that the world exists. Withdraw your belief in its reality and it will dissolve like a dream. Time can bring down mountains, much more you, who are the timeless source of time. For without memory and expectation there can be no time.

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Live your life as it comes, but alertly, watchfully, allowing everything to happen as it happens, doing the natural things the natural way, suffering, rejoicing - as life brings. This is a way.

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You are Pure Consciousness
Your true nature (existence) is beyond description.
It (existence) cannot be known with the mind, yet it exists. It is the source of everything.
You become what you believe. How powerful are the effects of beliefs. Be aware of this truth.
Know that you are (exist) before knowing anything else (concepts or experiences). Have the firm conviction that you are pure consciousness (existence). This should be done spontaneously; it is the only way.
Catch hold of the knower of the mind. If you believe your thoughts, you will be disappointed.
Be the witness of thoughts. Remain as the seer (the subject).
The world is your mind (imagined within it).
The mind is a concept and this concept is the mind - it gives birth to whatever it likes. This is its nature.
When one realizes the true nature of concepts, one simultaneously realizes 'That' (consciousness) which is without concepts.
Only mind is born, not you (existence, consciousness).
When you become stabilized in your Self, the continuous commentary of the mind will stop.
Your true state (existence) is ever-existent (since existence always exists).
Only the religion of one's true nature (an awareness of one's inner awareness) will last to the end.
True religion is the religion of the Self (existence, consciousness). It lies in searching for one's true nature and stabilizing oneself there.
Religious traditions are based on concepts. There is silence (existence, consciousness) when these concepts are given up.
The ultimate religion is a state of Self-realization - it is an unbroken and fearless state of Being (existence, consciousness).
This means to live with the conviction that we are pure consciousness (existence).

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Nisargadatta about Osho:

Rajneesh is not a small personality or small principal.

He is tremendous.
He is very big.
He is a great sage.

When you already have a guru, why do you visit other sages?

Since you already have a great sage as your guru, you should not sit here or come here.

I do not like those shiftings from gurus to gurus.

I do not like wanderers.

What is the difference between Maharaj and Rajneesh?

Once you remove the letters, the names, what is the difference?

You investigate that wanderer's, I, before you investigate others.

What is the product, after you remove its name?

What are you, without the name or the label?

Before you take up the assignment of inquiring about others, inquire about yourself first and see if you are real or unreal.

The letters "I Am" are written spontaneously with a certain ink.

What is that ink which was used to write that which you are?

In that ink with which the letters "I Am" were written, in that ink the title of Tej Sesh Bhagavan is confirmed by the Vedas.

Sesh means the leftover, the remains.

What is the leftover that means what you are?


~ From "Consciousness and the Absolute"
Chapter Sixty One. June Nine, 1981.

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Question: At what point does one experience reality?
Nisargdatta Maharaj : Experience is of change, it comes and goes. Reality is not an event, it cannot be experienced. It is not perceivable in the same way as an event is perceivable. If you wait for an event to take place, for the coming of reality, you will wait for ever, for reality neither comes nor goes. It is to be perceived, not expected. It is not to be prepared for and anticipated. But the very longing and search for reality is the movement, operation, action of reality. All you can do is to grasp the central point, that reality is not an event and does not happen and whatever happens, whatever comes and goes, is not reality. See the event as event only, the transient as transient, experience as mere experience and you have done all you can. Then you are vulnerable to reality, no longer armoured against it, as you were when you gave reality to events and experiences. But as soon as there is some like or dislike, you have drawn a screen.

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No state of mind can be more real than the mind itself. Is the mind real? It is but a collection of states, each of them transitory. How can a succession of transitory states be considered real? The illusion of being the body-mind is there only because it is not investigated. Non-investigation is the thread on which all the states of mind are strung. It is like darkness in a closed room. It is there - apparently. But when the room is opened, where does it go? It goes nowhere, because it was not there. All states of mind, all names and forms of existence are rooted in non-enquiry, non-investigation, in imagining and credulity. It is right to say "I am", but to say "I am this", "I am that" is a sign of not enquiring, not examining, of mental weakness or lethargy. Sadhana (practice) consists in reminding oneself forcibly of one's pure being-ness, of not being anything in particular, nor a sum of particulars, not even the totality of all particulars, which make up a universe. All exists in the mind, even the body is an integration in the mind of a vast number of sensory perceptions, each perception also a mental state. Think of yourself. Only don't bring the idea of a body into the picture. There is only a stream of sensations, perceptions, memories and ideations. The body is an abstraction, created by our tendency to seek unity in diversity.

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Watch your mind, how it comes into being, how it operates. As you watch your mind, you discover your self as the watcher. When you stand motionless, only watching, you discover your Self as the light behind the watcher. The source of light is dark, unknown is the source of knowledge. That source alone is. Go back to that source and abide there.

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Even faith in God is only a stage on the way. Ultimately, you abandon all, for you come to something so simple that there are no words to express it.

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The sum total is, whatever experiences you have, whether for a day or for years, it is all an illusion.

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The world is like a sheet of paper on which something is typed. The
reading and the meaning will vary with the reader, but the paper is
the common factor, always present, rarely perceived. When the ribbon
is removed, typing leaves no trace on the paper. So is my mind - the
impressions keep on coming, but no trace is left.

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HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE ME TO GET FREE OF THE MIND..?


Q: How long will it take me to get free of the mind?

M: It may take a thousand years, but really no time is required. All you need is to be in dead earnest. Here the will is the deed. If you are sincere, you have it. After all, it is a matter of attitude. Nothing stops you from being a Jnani here and now, except fear. You are afraid of being impersonal, of impersonal being.

It is all quite simple. Turn away from your desires and fears and from the thoughts they create and you are at once in your natural state.

Q: No question of reconditioning, changing, or eliminating the mind?

M: Absolutely none. Leave your mind alone, that is all. Don't go along with it. After all, there is no such thing as mind apart from thoughts which come and go obeying their own laws, not yours. They dominate you only because you are interested in them. It is exactly as Christ said 'Resist not evil'. By resisting evil you merely strengthen it.

I AM THAT , 259.

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To believe that you depend on things and people for happiness is due to ignorance of your true nature; to know that you need nothing to be happy, except Self-knowledge, is wisdom.

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Question every urge, hold no desire legitimate. Empty of possession, physical and mental, free of all self-concern, be open for discovery.

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Make your entire life an expression of your faith and love for your teacher—this is real dwelling with the Guru.

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Life itself is the Supreme Guru; be attentive to its lessons and obedient to its commands.

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The sum total is, whatever experiences you have, whether for a day or for years, it is all an illusion.

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There are people in the world who do more good than all the statesmen and philanthropists put together. They radiate light and peace with no intention or knowledge. When others tell them about the miracles they worked, they also are wonder struck.

Yet, taking nothing as their own, they are neither proud, nor do they crave for reputation. They are just unable to desire anything for themselves, not even the joy of helping others knowing that God is good they are at peace.

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Isn't it amusing that the teaching which destroys the individual is exactly what the individual wants? The answer is that there never was an individual. The knowledge comes that the individual was never there.

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Time is death. Who waits, dies. Life is Now only. Do not talk to me about past and future - they exist only in your mind.

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Forget me, forget the teachings, stay in the consciousness, be the consciousness, as the portal to the Absolute.

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Remove the sense of separateness, and there will be no conflicts.

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THE DESIRE TO DISCUSS SPIRITUALITY MUST ALSO COME TO AN END

Visitor : Sitting in Maharaj’s presence, I had a certain bodily experience. How should I understand this?

Maharaj: In trying to understand the experience, whatever significance your words and concepts give to it will be acceptable to you. But that is not knowledge.

That is why I am not very keen to ask people to stay for any extended period of time, because if you stay long you will not be able to understand. In the course of your initial eight or ten days, whatever is somewhat understood will first have to be properly digested; until then any further talks will not be absorbed. Assuming that a person is knowledgeable, then what happens is this: having left this place , he will not be able to remain alone for long. He craves company to whom he can deliver goods of spirituality. He likes to seek out somebody with whom he can talk and discuss spirituality; otherwise he feels very unhappy. Will you feel happy and satisfied if you don’t encounter other sadhakas?

A question was asked whether it was not necessary for a serious seeker to go through this stage where one likes to dole out whatever knowledge one has, to share it with others? My answer was that this is a part of the process, but that it also must come to an end, this desire to discuss and exchange views on spirituality.

The highest state is the unborn state, in which there is no experience.

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Now keep quiet. Do nothing more, just keep quiet. Stop, be silent.

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